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Should house buying come with no risks?


By Todd Clark (Broker/Sales Coach) 503-524-9494

Should house buying come with no risks? It seems like a silly question, but I had a buyer I recently decided to let go of because of numerous reasons. But, the one thing I remember about this client, that will always stick out in my mind, is that no matter what house they end up buying, I’m going to feel real sorry for the seller.

Should house buying come with no risks


You see, this buyer wanted to put offers in with no risk to himself. I dropped him after he told me all the things he wanted me to put in his offer. I wasn’t going to put my name on this contract as I thought it was just ridicules what he was asking of sellers and I didn’t want to have any part of it.

Here are just a couple things that he was requesting be put in the contract. The first was that if the home didn’t appraise, the sellers would agree to lower the price to the appraised amount minus $5,000 or the seller would have to pay for the appraisal plus $250 for their time. The second was they were only going to put down $1 in earnest money. (I almost believe they would stick it out.) Then they said if the inspection came back with anything that needed to be repaired, they wanted the seller to agree to do all the repairs or pay for the inspection.

Then to top all that, as if that wasn’t enough to get me to run from that client, they had a formula that set their max offer price of 67% of the current asking price, no matter if the current price was good or not. Not only did I feel by writing this offer I was wasting my time, but I was also wasting the time of the seller and ruining my good name and I wasn’t about to do that.

So, do you think the buyer should be able to buy a house without risk?




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Comments

Clearly this buyer was just going to be wasting your time and probably had no real motivation to purchase. Any buyer who really wants to buy will have to put some skin into their game both time and money. 

Posted by Morgan Evans-New York City Real Estate Expert (Prudential Douglas Elliman) over 2 years ago

Investors can use any formula they want. But if you want my services, It must be a formula that I can work with.

Posted by Claude Cross-Charlotte NC Real Estate(Homes By Cross, Inc.) over 2 years ago

There is great potential for empowerment, and just as much potential for self-sabotage with the advent of easy consumer access to Real Estate data.  Most saavy clients will realize that the terrific tools provided online are still limited ones.  Sounds like your guy had it all figured out and only respected your experience and ability to open a door.  I suppose you can't really fault a guy for trying to grind out the most advantageous terms, but you would starve if you invested all of your time and energy into chasing this pipe dream with him.  Perhaps he'll find a taker three years and two hundred offers down the line, but it will inevitably be for the hard-up owner of a mold-infested property that backs up to a power plant.  We have all presented offers at one point or another that may not fit our ideal criteria for opening a realistic dialogue with the other party, but a successful businessman knows a lost cause when he sees one.  Save your services for those he need it, not those who utilize it as a means to their predetermined ends.

Posted by Paul Slaybaugh, Scottsdale AZ Real Estate (Realty Executives) over 2 years ago

You did the right thing. There is risk to both parties to a transaction. Why should he buy with no risk at all. Not fair and not right.

Posted by Barb Szabo E-pro Realtor Cleveland Ohio Homes (RE/MAX Trinity) over 2 years ago

The prospective buyer cost you some time, but at least provided you with a good "war" story and blog post.  I'll bet you feel much better now that you don't have to deal with that buyer anymore!

Posted by Rick Obst with Obst Business Solutions Team (Obst Business Solutions Team) over 2 years ago

Todd you did the right thing walk away.  They will find some idiot to write their contract that any good listing agent would get his clients to reject.

Posted by John Walters (Licensed in Slidell, Louisiana) (Frank Rubi Real Estate) over 2 years ago

You just saved up lot of time that can be more effectively used! Just imagine when he becomes a seller of a home.

Posted by Ritu Desai-Northern Virginia Realtor Fairfax/Loudoun/PW-703-625-4949 (Samson Properties) over 2 years ago

I'm not sure that we are talking about the buyers risk. I think that the buyer thinks the market is so bad he can put anything he can conjure up to the seller and they'll jump at it.  Who told this guy he gets to be so obnoxious?  It's gone past ridiculous if you ask me.  $1 in earnest money because???? I actually have already negotiated deals where if the house didn't appraise, the seller would pay for the buyers appraisal cause the deal wasn't going anywhere!  I guess what's being said is the seller is confident in the price and the buyer isn't.  This sounds like a gun fight at the OK corral brewing with you in the middle.

Glad you decided to sit this one out and spend time with people who weren't nuts.

Posted by Lyn Sims - Schaumburg Homes (Schaumburg Real Estate - Northwest Suburbs - RE/MAX Suburban) over 2 years ago

Good question Todd. Some people believe that its all about them! With no cash up front, they want instant equity, no financial liability, and heaven forbid if the can't sell at a huge profit. On the other hand, my first time home buyers with good credit scores and decent down payments are being turned down for loans. Go figure!
Your friend from Washington State!
Paul

Posted by Paul Henderson, Broker, Realtor® Tacoma,Gig Harbor,DuPont,HartstenePointe (RE/MAX Professionals & Four Seasons Inc.) over 2 years ago

Todd ----I agree with you that you should have walked away from this buyer -- I feel that any buyer will have some risk -- that is part of buying a home.                                     

                                                                   

Posted by Liz Loadholt- AgentOwned Realty- Covering SC over 2 years ago

Hi Todd... no matter what the reason, it would be difficult to believe that submitting such an offer would not hurt your reputation.  I will work hard for my clients and protect them to the best of my ability, but not at the long term expense of my reputation as a professional.  Sounds like you made the right decison.

Posted by Steve Shatsky - Dallas Real Estate & Short Sale Specialist (214)213-0340 (Prudential Texas Properties) over 2 years ago

Yep! I agree with Steve. I severed a relationship this week for similar reasons. But no matter what I refused to be used by individuals who will hurt my reputation or are not being straight with me.

Posted by Trey Thurmond, College Station , Texas Homes (Brazosland Classic Realty) over 2 years ago

Todd - I think you made the right decision. No reason for other agents to think you are wasting their time (and yours of course).

Posted by John Cannata - Supreme Lending Frisco Texas Home Loan Originator (214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com) over 2 years ago

There are buzzards out there.  They talk about formulas a lot.  they call themselves investors. They have a lot of creative provisions to keep from any expense. 

But any way you spell buzzard, it still comes out v-u-l-t-u-r-e.

 

Greetings from Taipei, Taiwan.

Posted by Jim Hale - On the MOVE for You! Eugene - Springfield Oregon Real Estate (ACTIONAGENTS.NET) over 2 years ago

The vultures I have in mind like to work with listing agents directly ....the better to stick a talon into the double-sided agent's pocket as well as stealing from the seller.

 

They are looking for a seller that has a huge equity and a giant immediate need for cash.

 

They don't care how many people's time they waste finding the right victim(s). 

 

They give birds of prey a bad name.  There is not an eagle among them.

Posted by Jim Hale - On the MOVE for You! Eugene - Springfield Oregon Real Estate (ACTIONAGENTS.NET) over 2 years ago

Drop him like a hot potato let him harass a seller with out you.

Posted by Terry+Bonnie Westbrook Westbrook Realty Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Real Estate (Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner) over 2 years ago

Todd, you bring up some excellent points.  Some buyers are very nervous with big purchase decisions like a home, but there will alwasy be some risks.

Posted by Gabe Sanders, Stuart Florida Real Estate (Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales) over 2 years ago

..formula??  sounds like a "get rich quick with real estate" scholar.  Was he a first time buyer?  Doesn't sound like he has ever been a seller either. 

Posted by Jim Allhiser Salem, Oregon Home Inspector (Perfection Inspection, Inc.) over 2 years ago

Todd, a good decision...and I would do the same.  Your reputation is important.  This buyer will find some Realtor to write the contract...I feel sorry for any seller that has a buyer like that one.

Posted by Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor WV Real Estate in Greenbrier County (Coldwell Banker Stuart & Watts Real Estate) over 2 years ago

OMG - that is a teriible laundry list of "wants" from that buyer and I shudder to think that wasn't even all of their demands.  Every buyer has risks and every seller has risks - I feel for the next agent they latch onto.  You know they'll find one that feeds into their delusions - but, it will never work out under those conditions!

Wake Forest NC House Chick

Posted by Leesa L. Finley -Wake Forest NC REALTOR® Wake Forest NC & Raleigh NC Real Estate (Circa Properties - Your Wake Forest NC Homes Specialist) over 2 years ago

Tood, There are always risks when buying or selling but this person would make anyone look silly but especially himself. Good job letting him go!

Posted by Wanda Kubat-Nerdin, REALTOR® St. George, Utah (Prado & Kramer Real Estate, St. George, UT 435.632.9374) over 2 years ago

That buyer has some unrealistic expectations. I pity the Realtor© who wastes time with this one.

Posted by Maria Morton, Kansas City Real Estate (Prudential Kansas City Realty) over 2 years ago

I believe that buying without risk comes under the category of it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Posted by Todd Clark (Broker) (503)524-9494 (Beaverton, Oregon Real Estate Expert) (Knipe Realty) over 2 years ago

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